Mulvaney Town Hall Set to be Protested
Never one to fear a good counter protest, I’d like to encourage folks to attend Congressman Mick Mulvaney’s Town Hall meeting in Lake Wylie tonight. Mick is one of the “good guys”, as evidenced by the planned protest by Organizing for America.
From CAUTION and Freedomworks:
Organizing For America (OFA), President Obama’s well-funded political outfit, is working to takeover South Carolina Congressman Mick Mulvaney’s town hall event tonight in Lake Wylie. Specifically, OFA plans to bus in left-wing activists from far and wide to protest the congressman’s support of a conservative, limited government agenda.
It is critical that fiscal conservatives show up to counter OFA and support Rep. Mulvaney for his bold stance on the most important issues facing South Carolina and our country as a whole.
Mulvaney Lake Wylie Town Hall
Wednesday, June 8th, 7:00 pm
Life Center at River Hills Community Church
104 Hamilton’s Ferry Road
Lake Wylie, SCIn just a short period of time, Rep. Mulvaney has done a fantastic job in Congress voting for tough spending cuts and standing strong i n support of fiscally responsible policy that will get our great nation back on track.
Please take the time to show him that conservatives appreciate his hard work.
To be fair – it was SC District 5 Patriots that sent out the call as well. If you can get there early – please do!!!
http://www.scd5patriots.org/
Sorry, but I can’t counter-protest for guys who voted for PATRIOT Act renewal.
Right On, Adam!
the “patriot act” turns the bill of rights on its head.i don’t count anyone supporting this deliberate destruction of liberty as a “good guy”.
I think standing against OFA is far more important. The Patriot Act can be taken down in due course as can wayward Republicans, but OFA will actually re-elect and elect supporters of far worse policies.
I would argue that you’d be hard-pressed to find policies worse than those which allow the government to spy on Americans without a warrant, without allowing those same spied-on Americans judicial review, which allow the government to comb through your phone records, library records, financial records, and on and on. A policy which undoes the idea that people have the right to be secure in their papers and persons, one of the fundamental ideas for which our ancestors fought and won a Revolution.
Standing against something like that is pretty much one of the most important things a free man or woman can do. The Founders thought so. That’s why they wrote the 4th Amendment.
OFA is a two-bit group who can only muster a few protestors by paying them to show up. The Patriot Act is a LAW that allows the government to take away our God-given natural rights. Which is more dangerous?
OFA, because we can’t vote them in or out. They also don’t have to listen to us, they would use the Patriot Act for the exact purpose you fear it and they are out on the street while you are not.
Their president is ALREADY doing that because Republicans cheered the Bush Administration on when it was first enacted, and until this year, nobody on either side of the aisle so much as raised an objection when it’s come up for renewal since then.
The bottom line is a lot of people are sick to death of cutting slack to politicians who vote to restrict our rights and liberties because of the letter next to their name on the ballot. Until these guys learn that being on Team R doesn’t give them political cover for bad votes, nothing’s going to change.
Ok, let’s see how many “thumbs down” I can get. LOL.
For anyone involved in politics that is looking forward to achieving 100% of your stated goals, I have bad news for you. It ain’t never gonna happen. Seriously. Might I suggest an alternative pastime…rock collecting perhaps. 🙂
For every idea of utopia that exists, there is another person for whom that vision is a nightmare. So long as you each have a vote, some level of compromise and understanding is necessary…unless you actually wish to escalate to warfare.
This is the history of our country. The colonies came together to fight the greater evil of Great Britain, but in actually forming the type of government we would have, a compromise had to be reached. (re: New Jersey vs Virginia plans) You know what? That compromise ain’t lookin’ half bad these days.
I respect those of you who fear the Patriot Act boogey man. I just don’t see it. It hasn’t in it’s near decade long existence affected one thing that I do or don’t do. If you never told me it was there, I never would have noticed it. Taxes? I notice. Strip searches at the airport? I notice. The government listening to me talk with Osama the Dead Terrorist? Never noticed. Don’t care. Sorry.
When it comes to Mick Mulvaney, here we have one of the most fiscally conservative members of the House. This guy spent his opening speech last night (I will soon post the video) going over and showing exactly how bad off we actually are. He is a cosponsor of the bill to audit the Fed (and spoke passionately towards that during the question/answer session), he supports cutting America’s military budget, he has voted to increase the retirement age for social security, etc, etc. He gets it.
I think at times that some folks could be given 900,000 dollars, and then find a way to complain that they didn’t get a million.
There is no such thing as perfect. If you keep waiting for the messiah of politics to come and set you free, you will be waiting a very long time and will perhaps make things worse for yourself in the meantime by not accepting that there are real differences between the parties and what level of damage they wish to inflict upon you.
I was happy to support Mick last night. Even if I feared the Patriot Act, I would still be supporting him because of the totality of his record.
Be forceful with your issues, but be wise with your politics.
If you’d like a quick breakdown of the various ways the PATRIOT Act has been used and abused, I’ll direct you here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDxprAvpEU
Senator Rand Paul sums it up much better than I can. I’ll simply point out that the Founders thought that the British Writs of Assistance (self-written warrants) were a big enough deal to start shooting over, so I don’t feel a bit bad about merely declining to go counter-protest for Mick because of his PATRIOT Act support. It’s not like I’m joining forces with the OFA clowns and helping them protest him. I’m simply refusing to take sides in this particular fight.
I realize that no politician is perfect, and that I’ll never get 100% of what I want. I don’t interpret that to mean, though, that I should simply stop advocating for my beliefs or complaining when politicians blithely vote, again and again, to wad the 4th Amendment up and treat it like Charmin. I also don’t buy that objecting to warrantless searches, sneak-and-peek warrants, and National Security Letters that prohibit Americans from even contesting those searches in court (or admitting that they happened at all) is being nit-picky or obstinate. Part of the reason you never hear about them is that the folks they’re happening to go to prison if they talk about it.
Again, the Founders thought this stuff was a big enough deal to start shooting when the British did it to them. I’m simply reserving my right to verbally object to it and not wave signs on behalf of the guys that keep supporting it.
Thanks for the response (and for being the first of many thumbs down!). I acknowledge that your decision not to join a counter protest does not immediately indicate your approval of the other side.
Frankly, OFA chickened out after they learned their plans had been detected. I was a little disappointed. I love a good ruckus. 🙂
I will certainly watch the link later, but I can imagine what the sentiment is. Make no mistake, I too am opposed to such radical misinterpretations of the 4th amendment that allow, for example, in Indiana the police to simply come into your home without a warrent, for any reason. Or, in New Mexico, where the police can seize your firearm for a simple traffic stop. These are clearly wrong and I hope go to the Supreme Court.
The Patriot Act? Generally speaking, correct me if I’m wrong, but the only reason your cell phone would be listened in on is if you are receiving a phone call from an international source that is already under a terror watch. It wouldn’t be “you” being listened to, it would be the other person…you just got stuck in the middle. It seems to me that there are plenty of checks against obscene abuse.
I know that a lot of folks like to pretend that there is no real terror threat, but I’m sorry, I know people personally who get the data as part of their job. There were 22 cases of attemped mass destruction last year by acknowledged jihadists in this country. I believe the threat is real, and while generally I agree with the mantra that “those who give up liberty for security deserve neither”, in the Patriot Act case I just don’t see me giving up much of anything. Again, I will watch the video later…perhaps this is addressed.
That’s pretty funny that they chickened out.
I posted the video because Senator Paul presents some facts and figures that show a rapid rise in the use of the more controversial provisions of the PATRIOT Act, and proposes solutions which I believe strike a balance between security concerns and civil liberties concerns. Let me know what you think when you get a chance to watch it!
“I just don’t see me giving up much of anything.”
Guess you didn’t mind when they came for the Jews either.
with all due respect,i don’t get how some folks think that the destruction of the bill of rights is no big deal.the philosophy of liberty,as expressed therein,is a reflection of the political and moral relationship of free individuals.if these basic tenents of american political philosphy aren’t relevent,then we are doomed for sure.i also don’t see liberty activists as the ones practicing political messiahship or engaging in utopianism.the very opposite is more reflective of the historically based fear of government and it’s destructive force.
free individuals acting on their own pursuit of life,liberty and happiness inherently means more personal responsibility.
i appreciate folks here at pundit house for their willingness to take action and get involved.i guess your last line;”be forceful with your issues,but be wise with your politics” is open for interpetation.
thanks,
btw,the report on co-sponsoring the audit the fed bill,is very encouraging.
“The freedom that will be used by only one man in a million may be more important to society and more beneficial to the majority than any freedom that we all use.” ~ Friedrich Hayek